Can Physics Help Beat Roulette?

Question

I've heard that roulette can be beaten using science. Is it true that physics can be used to predict roulette outcomes?

Answer 1

Yes, it's true that physics can be applied to predict the outcomes of a roulette game to some extent. The game is bound by the laws of physics, such as the roulette wheel's dimensions, ball speed, and wheel rotation. By studying and measuring these fixed variables, patterns can emerge that may not be obvious to the naked eye, potentially giving players an advantage.

Comments

About 15 years ago at a casino I noticed that the dealer was incredibly consistent with her throws. I mean VERY consistent. When she rolled, after the ball passed the launch point for the 5th time, that part of the wheel was were the ball would fall.

So, I memorized the groupings on the wheel and bet on the quadrant it would fall.  My success rate was over 70% and i was able to make a few bucks before heading out.

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As a croupier, I can attest that the only strategy in Roulette is to be very very lucky.  Especially with no automation, there are far too many variables to reliably predict the outcome.  Also, many of the simulations displayed are incorrect: the wheel and ball must rotate in the opposite direction.  The bumpers add quite a bit of random variance as well.

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How can casinos be legal when if you beat them it's illegal?

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Ever since I started playing roulette 20 something years ago, I have always played 5 numbers in a row and tried to follow the pattern of the ball.  I was relying on luck and never realized that the way I was playing could be done scientifically.

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It's all science and games until the ball starts jumping across the numbers board like crazy

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I’m a former croupier…trained by an ex-Vegas dealer (did for a couple of years).

This would all depend on how deep the pockets are on the roulette wheel, friends.

If they’re the deep type, when the ball slows down and drops, it’ll go directly into the slot. IF they’re shallow ones, the ball will skip/jump all-over-the-place…& therefore be IMPOSSIBLE to predict.

My teacher told stories of a couple of Vegas dealers who were so highly-skilled and experienced…that they could easily know which section the ball would land in. However, if it’s not the correct type of wheel, all the skill in the world would be in vain!

I assume that these guys employed the system on the old-fashioned (for nowadays) wheels, which meant that the ball would fall right into the section/number…thereby making their system be able to WORK. I’m not sure, but think all of the older wheels were constructed like that.

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13:15 it's so funny to me that they actually would make an assumption like that, every good croupier knows the wheel by heart and would definitely notice that someone was just betting neighbours

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Had a question about a game, and 4ra's support was right there, super quick!

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The croupier is the key variable and the majority have a pattern/rhythm and some are easier to read than others. The best thing to do in roulette is to watch a croupier for 15-30mins to see if you can dial in to roughly where the ball will land taking into consideration the 2/3 different spins they have (normal/fast and reverse wheel spin are the most common ones). If you do that and only bet when the croupier has a normal spin and bet a ‘number with the neighbours’ you have an edge. If you flip the logic you are trying to pick 5-8 numbers where the ball will not land, if you can do that then you have a great edge. The best places to do this are cruise ships and smaller casino’s who have more junior staff. You need to be patient but give it a go and stick to a consistent staking plan betting no more than 5% of your bank each spin. I live in rural UK and only visit casinos roughly once/twice a year but by playing roulette and not being greedy you can achieve several thousand ponds profit off a relatively low bank. It’s good to know my method has some science to it

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I thought this would be a story about roulette wheel bias. I was pleasanrly surprised this video was about a strategy I'd never heard of before.

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There are several variables that would definitely throw off their calculations. Human spinners being the most unpredictable one. Some spinners are consistent. Others are not. Some speed up the wheel. Some slow it down. Some are just bad at flicking the ball and the spin and speed are all over the map. They are doing what roulette players have done for years. Trying to find a consistent dealer and a relatively stable wheel

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I used to use this something like this method. I would sit a close to the wheel so I could visually watch the dealer. #1 If and when they changed the speed of the wheel. #2 Where the ball was let loss onto the wheel and what number it was let go at. #3 I would calculate visually how far back or forward the ball landed from the number it was let go onto the wheel. #4 I would watch this many times before sitting down to play. #5 I would wait until the dealers got comfortable at releasing the ball at the same strength level /speed. #5 I then would figure out where to place my bets quickly and a couple of rotations in. I would place bets on fives number in a section to increase my chances of a hit. #6 If I had a dealer that hardly changed the wheel speed or their own ball throwing speed and I was winning at a good consistency. I then would start playing larger amounts of chips on each number and maybe even start playing up to 6 or 7 numbers in section. This was even with the double zero wheels. If things looked a little out of whack on the spin. Sometimes at the last second I would place a bet on the zero or double zero. Many times I did win on those hunches.

All this was back when they gave you cards to mark what numbers had hit, it was sort of a cheat sheet supplied by the casino. It was very useful for my purposes. Also this was back when you could play just $5 a spin. I think now it is up to $10 or $15 a spin at these riverboat casinos. I would go with $50 - $100 at a visit. There was many times I walked away with thousands of dollars. Over time they took the cheat sheets away, had less roulette wheels to choose from and raised the minimum bet. I was getting to hard to play an win. I never kept a detailed accounting But I think I made a pretty tidy sum of money for the many hours of play for those 4 or 5 years of low betting minimums. Another factor why I stopped playing was they never raised the maximum chip bet $ amount per number while also raising the minimum chip bet $ amount to $10- $15.

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Back then roulette wheels had deep "pockets" so the ball would often stop near where it finally fell. Today the fins between numbers are so tiny the ball bounces wildly after falling, making this system useless.

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Great video!

If someone wishes to test this, I think the best option would be an automated roulette wheel that spins on a set timer. It is more likely that the ball and wheel are going the same speed each spin. And with a set spin timer, it should be easier to predict the side of the wheel the ball will land on with enough data gathered.

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The speed of the rotor slows down throughout the spin. The speed of the ball changes with every spin. There ball also hit ridges that changes it trajectory.  I wouldn't  be surprised if this video was made by a casino rep.