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I read about students who tried to beat roulette in Las Vegas using technology. What was their plan?

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The students planned to beat roulette by using a computer to model and track the roulette wheel after collecting data for about 30 minutes of play in the casino. They needed to factor in the wheel's position, the rotor's speed, the ball's location, and its speed. They used a hidden computer to run calculations and predict a section of five numbers where the ball would likely land, giving them a significant advantage over the house.
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I just wrote a paper on these guys for my Dynamical Systems and Chaos class.  They all went on to be incredibly successful in their fields having all met in Santa Cruz.  Their use of an analog computer that was laying around in the engineering department led to significant advances in the field of chaos.  I am sure I did not do them justice, but found them and their feats phenomenal.
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The fbi investigating college kids buying a roulette wheel is hilarious.
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Im not 100% sure about the rules at the time, but now it tends to be a clear line for cheating when youre using any kind of electronic device. Even now, most casinos wont let you have your phone out at the table. You have to step away in between rolls, shuffles, etc if you want to answer a text or whatever. The rules are very much still largely dependent on how casino staff feels on any given night, youre just a lot less likely to end up in a hole in the desert now compared to then.
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Did this in the early 2000’s, I now have a prosthetic hand
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I went to Berkeley back in the 90s and two of my physics buddies roped me into a similar scheme, except with blackjack.  (They would discuss their latest ideas for string theory papers on rides to Vegas and describe their ideas to me. They knew that they were ready to start writing when I could explain their ideas back to them.)  Anyways, they explained to me that cheating casinos was kind of like a rite of passage for graduate students in physics, and they treated it as "a proof of math".  The thing is my buddies absolutely looked like physics nerds who were there to cheat the casinos - they absolutely did stick out like sore thumbs lol.  So I remember our first  time  at Circus Circus playing blackjack - my buddies were up by alot, and then they just suddenly stop and leave the table at the top of their game.  i asked why they stopped, and my buddy whispered to me that they had calculated that they were at the end of their run.  The moment he said that to me, we noticed that like a third of the casino was staring straight at us.  All the dealers, the janitors, a bunch of the guests, hostesses, everyone was looking right at us.  And so we ran!  Omg we got out  of there so quick!  Just bolted.  That was our first attempt to do something like what happened in this video. Long story short, my buddies never made tons of money, mostly because the casinos automatically understood who we were (we suspected that we were on a list) and the dealer would do things like give us free drinks and ask us to solve random math problems while dealing the cards (which they would do while still keeping their counts!), but we had a great time that year!  On our last momentous trip immediately prior to them getting their PhDs, my buddy told me that we will either come out of this with alot of money or a great story - and we got a great story.
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One thing that made me chuckle- the data shown at 8:16 has nothing to do with roulette, it's just a set of baseball statistics (e.g. batting average, on base & slugging percentage, total bases, and more)
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I read the book called "The Eudenomic Pie'. According to the book they went to the casino the first time with the computer in their shoe. They won on a couple of spins, then the computer started to melt. They shit themselves then left. That was it! They won fuck all.
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You need a heavy set of balls to even think to steal from the mafia.
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As an ex-croupier and computer programmer, I loved this story. If you find it interesting, the book to read detailing these exploits is 'The Newtonian Casino'  by Thomas A. Bass. It obviously deserves a credit.
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This would have been so much easier in smart phone era lol
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The fact that they were able to accomplish this nearly 50 years ago is insane. I do not believe i could do the same with modern day computing
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You hire 4 players, 3 guards, 2 distractions and 1 patsy.
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To minimize scrutiny they don't need to bet all numbers in the predicted section. Just back one of the numbers and let odds over time do the job.
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A spanish group won roulettes across european casinos. Their approach was different: they analyzed each individual roulette to find little differences in frequencies of each number. I.e., they profitted on the imperfections of every individual roulettes.

Their leader was a relatively known film director, writer and tv host . He wrote a book about it and someone made a movie about them.

After those roulette campaigns, he, allegedly, was successful making money with online poker.
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